Comments on: Wayne Grudem on God’s Will and Desire for the Salvation of all Men http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921 An Elenchus for Classic-Moderate Calvinism Tue, 24 Dec 2019 00:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.10 By: CalvinandCalvinism http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921&cpage=1#comment-31725 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:04:00 +0000 http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921#comment-31725 Hey Randy, sure you an assert all you want. The issue is exegesis. The Bible characterizes God has desiring something that he has not decreed to come to pass, Ps 81:13 is a good verse in point. Another good verse would be Hos 6:6 where God expresses a desire and preference for something that did not come to pass. Here the word delight or desire is the same as used in Ps 115:3. Here the same Hebrew word is being used in two different senses. Ho 6:6 is a quotation from 1 Sam 15:22 where the same word is used with the same intent: Saul did something that God did not desire or delight. Further, these verses are carried over into the New Testament, Matt 9:13.

This is just one line of evidence for this idea.

Hey Randy, keep in mind this is not a debating blog or an assertion blog. If you have any questions, please do ask them, but this is not a place for that which pretends to pass itself off as conversation and discussion out there on the Web. If you want a debate, join theology_list at Yahoo dot come or even email me.

Thanks,
David

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By: Randy http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921&cpage=1#comment-31723 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:30:25 +0000 http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921#comment-31723 Free will is not biblical? Preposterous. The entire theme of all scripture is free will vs Gods will and the battle to align the two for every man. The idea that God desires something he has already determined to be impossible fails election instantly. People try so hard to add to Gods word, why?

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By: CalvinandCalvinism http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921&cpage=1#comment-28362 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:18:27 +0000 http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921#comment-28362 Hey thanks Bob.

I will track that down and blog it. If Tony has blogged it already I will steal it from him. :-)

I always appreciate heads-up from folk regarding names, comments, and titles.

David

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By: Bob Schilling http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921&cpage=1#comment-28359 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:56:31 +0000 http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921#comment-28359 John Frame has very similar comments with some detail on 2 Peter 3:9, etc.

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By: Philip http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921&cpage=1#comment-28344 Sun, 28 Aug 2011 04:04:45 +0000 http://calvinandcalvinism.com/?p=10921#comment-28344 what’s really fascinating about Grudem is that he’s a high Calvinist on the issue, and doesn’t believe God has provided a way for their salvation, having died only for the specific sins of the elect!

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